Author of “Real Food in an Imaginary Garden” and “Ode to a Standing Hair Dryer” (Volume XXX, 2026)
When did you realize you wanted to write?
It wasn’t until I was almost forty that I realized that my desire to write was something more than an itch. There were so many other itches which wanted scratching—making money, having a decent relationship, traveling a bunch—I didn’t know how important writing could be. But once I sat in on my first poetry workshop, a ten-week course through UCLA Extension, it became clear to me that writing was the thing that would nourish me and sustain me through life.
Is what you write now the same as what you wanted to write when you started?
Yes. I always wanted to be a poet. I’ve written stories, essays, reviews and interviews, but I always come back to poetry. Poetry allows me to explore the mystery of language, to discover and impose meaningful patterns on experience.
What is a favorite piece that you wrote? What is a favorite piece that you’ve read?
I love all my children, but I have a special place in my heart for my first significant publication, a prose poem that appeared in The Sun over thirty years ago, a piece about my estrangement from my sister called “Janet the Cow.”
Continuing with the bovine theme, the first book of contemporary poetry I ever bought was called Diary Cows by Ron Koertge. I still love that book and especially the title poem, its daring rejection of self-importance in poetry.
How have other authors influenced your own writing and style?
I’ve never trusted my own voice—so self-important, so borderline arrogant. So I find other poets / poems that speak to me, and try to imitate them. The list is long and includes: Shakespeare, Keats, Dylan Thomas, Stephen Dunn, Lynn Emanuel, Kim Addonizio, Tony Hoagland, Miłosz, Zbigniew Herbert, James Merrill, etc., etc., etc. The point is that there are so many good poets (past and present) and you can learn from all of them.
How does using technology—Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, or even just your phone—influence how you write?
I grew up with typewriters. The electric typewriter was a major boost to my productivity. Then came word processing. I still see my computer as a glorified typewriter. (Yes, I am an old fogey!!) Facebook, Insta and the rest just irritate me. They’re a drain on my interest and energy.
What advice would you give an aspiring writer who wants to put their work “out there”?
Be patient. If you stick with writing, if you write your truth, people will start to listen. It may not be what you imagine (the literary world is very dynamic), but if you show up, you will be seen. Maybe not in New York (unless you live in New York) but wherever you live. Know the writers in your locale. Support them. And get a day job.
What have your experiences been like interacting with the publishing world? How about with student editors working on literary journals?
it’s strange. I’ve been publishing for almost forty years and the cast of characters keeps changing. Magazines that I use to depend on to take my poems either go out of operation or change personnel. But even the kindest, more responsive editors don’t always take what I send. That used to bother me, but not anymore. I figure they have priorities that change with every issue. I need to accept that the world (even the publishing world) does not exist for my enjoyment and gratification.
As for student editors, I try to accept their relative lack of experience. I trust that they have read a lot and that they have a sense not just of what they like but of good writing in general. I’ve usually found student editors to be as helpful and generous as the pros.
Where do you typically seek inspiration and guidance for your work?
I read a lot. The daily online anthologies, like Poetry Daily and Only Poems. In years past I’ve read for the Northern California Book Awards, sixty-plus books published by Northern California poets in the past year. I also try to go to readings and open mics. I find that hearing a poem makes an even greater impact than just reading it.
How do you feel about having your writing appear and read alongside other works in a literary collection?
Love it! Besides keeping me apprised of the competition, it reminds me that I’m part of a community of writers. Also it tells me how an editor or group of editors views me in relation to other contemporary writers.
If you could have a drink or a chat with any living author, who would it be? Why?
Hard question. I can think of three, but that’s off the top of my head. Tongo Eisen-Martin, because he’s so smart and fierce, and because I adore his politics. Barbara Hamby, because her language is so electric; it’s like when you’re three-years-old and stick your finger in a socket. And finally Diane Seuss; again, the language, she’s the closest thing we have to a Keats or Fr. Hopkins.
Do you have any professional advice for prospective authors seeking to be published? What did the process of getting your first published work look like?
Don’t be afraid to do it yourself. This is especially true for poets. My first book came out of poets’ collective in Los Angeles. I’d been typesetting and doing layout and paste up for magazines and books from the collective and finally it was my turn. Sweat equity it’s called in real estate. It works in poetry as well.
